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discedo Clive's amnesia...
What is amnesia
Good question! What is amnesia? No it is not a video game, please people, let’s be realistic. Amnesia is a condition in which one’s memory is lost. It can be done any number of ways including shock, injury, drugs, or even alcohol. It can cause someone to be unable to retrieve memories for a number of ways, where one cannot encode new memories after an event but can maintain old ones (such as in 50 First Dates with Adam Sandler), be unable to recall a certain event, or lose all memory prior to a certain event but is able to encode new memories.
Clive is suffering retrograde amnesia, meaning he’s unable to recall his past life prior to the event that caused it. Beyond that Clive has normal recollection skills and can easily remember the day before, the week before, or even the month before, so long as the time of accident is not WITHIN that time period. While Clive has LOST a lot of memories, that doesn’t mean he’s lost skills. Clive can still solve puzzles and still has a tendency to lie. Like an artist drawing on a blank piece of paper; while they will still draw the same, the picture they create will be different, without remnants of the old one.
How he gets amnesia?
Anyone who’s read Homestuck is going to realize that yes, Karkat is a very angry person. Anyone who’s played Professor Layton is going to realize that yes, Clive likes to instigate. One thing lead to another, Karkat got pissed off, Clive was smug as fuck, and bam: iron pipe to the head. Any smack to the brain can effectively disrupt the processes of memory encoding and retrieving, but not always. Clive just happened to be unlucky enough to TAKE that hit.
Alright, so how are you going about this?
WELP. From beginning to end?
> Clive wakes up under a couch
> Taken in by Dr. Cox for obvious reason- brain damage, ability to function, assurance of his condition, so on so forth
> He likely won’t be returning to his home for a while likely staking out in the hospital for some time
> Jack is going to have to take over broadcasting in his place for at least a month, maybe two, but I can still run it oocly as per usual
> I don’t know from here on out LMFAO
Gradually, Clive has the potential to recall his past; HOWEVER, you can’t just tell him things and he’ll remember them. He actually needs to experience them again, and the event that was experienced would need to be something relatively phenomenal or significant, and older memories would be easier for him to recall than those that happened very recently before his accident. Whether or not he can remember an event will depend entirely on how embedded the memory was into his brain.
For example, Clive’s parents died when he was 13 years old in the blaze of a fire that was caused by an explosion. Clive didn’t hear or see the explosion, but he was present for the sirens of firetrucks and the blaze of the fire. Seeing a similar scenario- -such as a house on fire- -Clive would be able to recognize the situation and not know what to do (he wouldn’t, however, specifically remember that his parents died in a fire.) Or, say, Layton hugged him. Clive might recall being hugged by Layton before and remember he was crying at the time, but he wouldn’t know why.
Simply TELLING Clive something isn’t going to spark memories, obviously. If you said “oh your father had a moustache” he’d be like ‘oh okay?’ and kind of not process anything. Seeing a picture of his parents might be better, but chances are, he would be unable to recall any specific incident with them. It’s the process of actually re-experiencing something that would trigger a memory
I seriously doubt he will ever regain ALL of his memories, so don’t count on that, but it’s okay eventually he’ll get around to it.
Wow so here I am: your castmate and/or old friend. WHAT ABOUT ME?
LOOKS LIKE YOURE STARTING FROM SCRATCH 8D”””””
Clive won’t recognize faces before the iron pipe incident u_u you will just have to suffer for now.
Alright so personality wise?
I’ll try to outline Clive’s adjusted personality.
Due to the incident, Clive has no past, and consequently, he has no reason to really GRIEVE any more. All of his ill doings and failures are gone from his memory for-almost-ever. He’ll be happier, more pleasant, and less likely to want to be your friend just for the benefits. Genuineness will become more prominent, a lot of his sentiments not only SEEMINGLY honest, but truly there.
He’ll maintain his puzzler-attributes (which is what im going to call them). He’s still intelligent, he still enjoys writing, and he still maintains the poise of a gentleman. He’ll be somewhat more curious as he knows NOTHING about a lot of things now, verses his original feigned curiosity or otherwise denial of ignorance on some subject. So, in the beginning he will be more prone to asking legitimate questions instead of imposing his knowledge when he wants to seem superior to others.
As it progresses, Clive will likely still be a liar and still have an impressive ability to manipulate the truth. Instead, though, of lying to preserve personal secrets, he may lie instead for others sake, be it positive or negative. In the beginning he’ll have the expressions of an innocent person, and as he starts to figure out how the world works, he’ll display impressive ability to hide how he feels.
Puzzles, im just going to cover briefly, are sort of weird. Any puzzle he’s given before or has solved is subconsciously located in his head. Meaning, more or less, Clive wouldn’t be able to reach into his brain and say ‘oh here let me tell you this puzzle because I remember it!!” By contrast, if presented with a puzzle that he once heard a long time ago, he may still come up with the answer.
Take the eight queens puzzle, in which you place eight queens on a board so that none of them are in the others line of path. This happens to be on I’ve headcanoned that he’s done, and has claimed that he slowly learned how to solve the puzzle and as a young adult was able to find all 12 solutions in one day (with tedious attention to it). If presented with the puzzle again after his accident and given the rules, Clive would be able to very quickly present all 12 answers within the same timeframe without previous practice of the puzzle SINCE his accident. More or less, he only KIND of knows the answers to all the puzzles he used to know, it’s just a matter of telling him the puzzle first.
Clive can be influenced to behave different ways according to who he is around, which is something I believe Clive always had the potential for (change). Meaning that if he hangs out with Dr. Cox a lot, he may being acting as he does. While Cox’s asshole-ish nature probably won’t sink in, Clive may pick up some of his sarcasm and use of “quotation marks”. If Clive hangs out with Sasuke more, he may exhibit more negative behaviours similar to his old character. The closer the personality of the person he is around to his original personality, the more likely it is Clive will adapt it to his own, ‘fresh’ personality. More or less, it can be a slippery slope back to horribleness, but very different without the old memories.
If other things pop up, I’ll try to add them here, so as to keep a consistent record of what I’m doing.
Good question! What is amnesia? No it is not a video game, please people, let’s be realistic. Amnesia is a condition in which one’s memory is lost. It can be done any number of ways including shock, injury, drugs, or even alcohol. It can cause someone to be unable to retrieve memories for a number of ways, where one cannot encode new memories after an event but can maintain old ones (such as in 50 First Dates with Adam Sandler), be unable to recall a certain event, or lose all memory prior to a certain event but is able to encode new memories.
Clive is suffering retrograde amnesia, meaning he’s unable to recall his past life prior to the event that caused it. Beyond that Clive has normal recollection skills and can easily remember the day before, the week before, or even the month before, so long as the time of accident is not WITHIN that time period. While Clive has LOST a lot of memories, that doesn’t mean he’s lost skills. Clive can still solve puzzles and still has a tendency to lie. Like an artist drawing on a blank piece of paper; while they will still draw the same, the picture they create will be different, without remnants of the old one.
How he gets amnesia?
Anyone who’s read Homestuck is going to realize that yes, Karkat is a very angry person. Anyone who’s played Professor Layton is going to realize that yes, Clive likes to instigate. One thing lead to another, Karkat got pissed off, Clive was smug as fuck, and bam: iron pipe to the head. Any smack to the brain can effectively disrupt the processes of memory encoding and retrieving, but not always. Clive just happened to be unlucky enough to TAKE that hit.
Alright, so how are you going about this?
WELP. From beginning to end?
> Clive wakes up under a couch
> Taken in by Dr. Cox for obvious reason- brain damage, ability to function, assurance of his condition, so on so forth
> He likely won’t be returning to his home for a while likely staking out in the hospital for some time
> Jack is going to have to take over broadcasting in his place for at least a month, maybe two, but I can still run it oocly as per usual
> I don’t know from here on out LMFAO
Gradually, Clive has the potential to recall his past; HOWEVER, you can’t just tell him things and he’ll remember them. He actually needs to experience them again, and the event that was experienced would need to be something relatively phenomenal or significant, and older memories would be easier for him to recall than those that happened very recently before his accident. Whether or not he can remember an event will depend entirely on how embedded the memory was into his brain.
For example, Clive’s parents died when he was 13 years old in the blaze of a fire that was caused by an explosion. Clive didn’t hear or see the explosion, but he was present for the sirens of firetrucks and the blaze of the fire. Seeing a similar scenario- -such as a house on fire- -Clive would be able to recognize the situation and not know what to do (he wouldn’t, however, specifically remember that his parents died in a fire.) Or, say, Layton hugged him. Clive might recall being hugged by Layton before and remember he was crying at the time, but he wouldn’t know why.
Simply TELLING Clive something isn’t going to spark memories, obviously. If you said “oh your father had a moustache” he’d be like ‘oh okay?’ and kind of not process anything. Seeing a picture of his parents might be better, but chances are, he would be unable to recall any specific incident with them. It’s the process of actually re-experiencing something that would trigger a memory
I seriously doubt he will ever regain ALL of his memories, so don’t count on that, but it’s okay eventually he’ll get around to it.
Wow so here I am: your castmate and/or old friend. WHAT ABOUT ME?
LOOKS LIKE YOURE STARTING FROM SCRATCH 8D”””””
Clive won’t recognize faces before the iron pipe incident u_u you will just have to suffer for now.
Alright so personality wise?
I’ll try to outline Clive’s adjusted personality.
Due to the incident, Clive has no past, and consequently, he has no reason to really GRIEVE any more. All of his ill doings and failures are gone from his memory for-almost-ever. He’ll be happier, more pleasant, and less likely to want to be your friend just for the benefits. Genuineness will become more prominent, a lot of his sentiments not only SEEMINGLY honest, but truly there.
He’ll maintain his puzzler-attributes (which is what im going to call them). He’s still intelligent, he still enjoys writing, and he still maintains the poise of a gentleman. He’ll be somewhat more curious as he knows NOTHING about a lot of things now, verses his original feigned curiosity or otherwise denial of ignorance on some subject. So, in the beginning he will be more prone to asking legitimate questions instead of imposing his knowledge when he wants to seem superior to others.
As it progresses, Clive will likely still be a liar and still have an impressive ability to manipulate the truth. Instead, though, of lying to preserve personal secrets, he may lie instead for others sake, be it positive or negative. In the beginning he’ll have the expressions of an innocent person, and as he starts to figure out how the world works, he’ll display impressive ability to hide how he feels.
Puzzles, im just going to cover briefly, are sort of weird. Any puzzle he’s given before or has solved is subconsciously located in his head. Meaning, more or less, Clive wouldn’t be able to reach into his brain and say ‘oh here let me tell you this puzzle because I remember it!!” By contrast, if presented with a puzzle that he once heard a long time ago, he may still come up with the answer.
Take the eight queens puzzle, in which you place eight queens on a board so that none of them are in the others line of path. This happens to be on I’ve headcanoned that he’s done, and has claimed that he slowly learned how to solve the puzzle and as a young adult was able to find all 12 solutions in one day (with tedious attention to it). If presented with the puzzle again after his accident and given the rules, Clive would be able to very quickly present all 12 answers within the same timeframe without previous practice of the puzzle SINCE his accident. More or less, he only KIND of knows the answers to all the puzzles he used to know, it’s just a matter of telling him the puzzle first.
Clive can be influenced to behave different ways according to who he is around, which is something I believe Clive always had the potential for (change). Meaning that if he hangs out with Dr. Cox a lot, he may being acting as he does. While Cox’s asshole-ish nature probably won’t sink in, Clive may pick up some of his sarcasm and use of “quotation marks”. If Clive hangs out with Sasuke more, he may exhibit more negative behaviours similar to his old character. The closer the personality of the person he is around to his original personality, the more likely it is Clive will adapt it to his own, ‘fresh’ personality. More or less, it can be a slippery slope back to horribleness, but very different without the old memories.
If other things pop up, I’ll try to add them here, so as to keep a consistent record of what I’m doing.